i’m a pick-me girl but with old people

im not gonna deny that a lot of transfems have a hard time passing & that T giving facial hair & voice changes while E doesn't get rid of those things creates a different passing experience for many. but god so many people are so obsessed with the idea of the Hyperprivileged Passing Trans Man they end up saying shit like "well transfems can't pass and will never pass and are doomed to be clocked forever because E barely changes anything and this is very progressive and not transmisognistic because it makes them the Most Oppressed"

its weird too becaus you all have stuff that can make it harder to pass... it isnt a transfem experience exclusive. hip size and breast size and height is very much a factor and ive heard people talk about how their voices didnt lower in a way comparable to cis men. t voice i think its called? t doesnt get rid of those either. showing support for us by saying that we never pass so its harder for is is horrible and transmisogynistic and i hate that its being touted as allyship and it erases how e can also create changes that make transition difficult in different ways. its all radfem garbage where estogen is treated as something that never changes the body significantly while testosterone is a posion that taints it and those ideas hurt and bring down people who want to go on e treating it like its useless and making us further hate our features we got from t, while hurting people who do want to go on t and erasing how e has changed their bodies in often irreverable ways.

if you went through an e or t first puberty you got permenant changes that can make passing harder and thats not just a transfem thing or something that transmascs are exempt from. only further becomes complicated if you had both e & t in your system at high levels during puberty due to being intersex or you didnt get enough hormones. hormones and puberty change bodies thats the whole point and thats true regardless of what type of puberty you go through.

They also act as though “second puberty” does not and can not happen for trans men/transmasculine people. Meanwhile it’s pretty well known that androgyny and clothing-based passing (i.e. without medical steps) is in general easier to achieve in your 20s. Estrogen does continue to accumulate effects with age. ESPECIALLY if you’ve given birth. This absolutely DOES affect those who start testosterone later, just as much as those who start estrogen later. The struggle of passing in general can be an issue for everyone, including age-related passing. Seen these things denied way too often.

I'm not sure where I read it - I think it was on the wikipedia page of that trans doctor from the 1920s, but I don't remember his name - but basically, it was talking about this trans man's experience being trans in the early 20th century, and his family's reaction. And it made a point of saying how his grandparents were entirely supportive and even wrote him as their grandson on their gravestones. And there's a similar story for a trans girl, also in a similar time period I believe, where her family took her to a doctor when she started Being Trans and the doctor's reaction was literally "Okay, she says she's a girl? Then treat her like a girl! Buy her dresses and call her by whatever name she wants!" and they did!!

Obviously transphobia still existed back then, and it was strong. But throughout time, there have been cases where people heard their loved one say "I am not that gender, that doesn't fit me," and their love and trust in that person overrode any prejudice or lack of understanding, and they just accepted them. Whether it's a doctor encouraging parents to treat their little girl like a little girl, or grandparents marking their grandson's gender in stone (even when, if I remember correctly, his parents had doubts), trans people have always had people who cared for us and believed us and supported us, despite what the rest of society might have said.

UPDATE: IT WAS ALAN L. HART, from his wikipedia page:

Hart wrote later, in 1911, of his happiness during this time, when he was free to present as male, playing with boys' toys made for him by his grandfather. His parents and grandparents largely accepted and supported his gender expression, though his mother described his "desire to be a boy" as "foolish." His grandparents' obituaries, from 1921 and 1924, both list Hart as a grandson.

I think it's her you mentioned? I remember reading about her some time ago.

Yes, thats her, thank you!

afab trans people are at the intersection of the war on trans rights and the war on abortion and we are just getting steamrolled. We're dying of abuse and medical neglect and people won't say a word. It's so fucking depressing.

Not "I suspect [factor in inequality] is just human survival instinct turned toxic" as in "oh we should just give up on trying to fix the problem, to be biased and xenophobic is just human nature~" but as in "this is a spot where we're likely to have to be persistent, generation after generation, on stressing why it's important NOT to act on every immediate thin-slicing judgment and knee-jerk response to the unfamiliar and perhaps find a less toxic outlet for that displaced emotion if possible"

Not "instinct" vs "social construct" as in "instincts are good and social constructs are bad because ~NATURE~" but as in "identifying where this behavior originates and how far back is not always possible, but when it is it's valuable information when it comes to engineering a societal structure that is both just AND sustainable"

For instance:

Does it suck that it's common to have to frame issues as "here's how it affects more than just a group of people you think you don't know any members of"? Yes.

Is it SOMETIMES willful callousness that makes it necessary? Yes.

Is it ALWAYS? No.

Why isn't it?

Sometimes that's because the blockage between a person and understanding another person's life and needs is disinformation that needs to be chipped away at in bits...and sometimes it's because the human animal is literally not wired to be able to fully emotionally comprehend something TOO far outside their sphere as being real, and therefore it is necessary to guide them to make connections to broaden that sphere. We process everything through our own life experiences! We are not very good at being objective! We need to be able to relate things to ourselves and our knowledge and experiences in SOME way or another to understand them on an emotionally high priority level! We are running global software on localized hardware with survival firmware!

Therefore, it's likely to always be necessary to use that outreach tactic from time to time, as much as that sucks. So from there, the question becomes, how do we make it suck less?

On a personal level, I can say that just getting to that point already made it suck less for me, just to be able to look at a frustrating situation and say "yeah, well, that's just part of being human, I guess!" instead of getting defensive and making up a self-centered asshole obsessed with sniffing their own farts every time I see someone convinced of the gravity of an issue by a "this is how it may affect you or someone you KNOW you know" argument.

person that has never interacted with a trans man in their life: the only reason trans men want to transition is to gain male privilege and take the easy way out, there is no other possible reason. they complain because they're salty they don't get the privilege they think they're entitled to, but also because they aren't seen as uwu soft boys anymore.

person that doesn't know what a trans man is: trans men appropriate female struggles, something they are incapable of experiencing because they are men, and constantly steal the attention and resources away from real female and trans struggles. trans men are simply not oppressed in any significant or unique way, and should stop bringing it up, because it definitely doesn't happen.

#babe just say terf #💀

#this is terf rhetoric though? #whether you call yourself a terf or no if you sound like this you're a yerf #*t

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person that has never interacted with a trans man in their life: the only reason trans men want to transition is to gain male privilege and take the easy way out, there is no other possible reason. they complain because they're salty they don't get the privilege they think they're entitled to, but also because they aren't seen as uwu soft boys anymore.

person that doesn't know what a trans man is: trans men appropriate female struggles, something they are incapable of experiencing because they are men, and constantly steal the attention and resources away from real female and trans struggles. trans men are simply not oppressed in any significant or unique way, and should stop bringing it up, because it definitely doesn't happen.

just the biggest clown: trans men are just gender traitors and the actual oppressor, because they choose to be men instead of rejecting it and embracing womanhood.. to which they are always claiming access to by infiltrating female only spaces by virtue of their agab, which they refuse to shut up about as if it has any consequence on their lives.. and for which they have afab privilege, and that's why it's ok to call them derogatory names that reference their genitalia.

#babe just say terf #💀

No, because it's not just terfs.

It is TERF rhetoric, never said it wasn't, here's the thing tho..

1. TERFs didn't invent this rhetoric, so not like everyone else got it from them. Unfortunately, a lot of separate groups/people are spewing this bs independently of each other.
2. TERF is an acronym, you need to be trans-exclusionary and a radical feminist to be called a TERF. There is no point in calling a cis guy, who's saying this from a misogynistic angle, a TERF.
3. Not only are none of these unique TERF talking points, but some are literally contradictory to TERF beliefs, like the whole AFAB privilege angle.

And like I mentioned in another reblog, a lot of what is said here is literally stuff you hear other non-TERF hate groups say, non-TERF cis women and cis men including allies, non-TERF queer people including trans people, even people who had no prior knowledge of trans discourse or TERF rhetoric.

The thing I need binary trans people to understand is that when someone says, in the context of the queer community, how diverse identities work, and how mainstream cishet society reacts to us, that "there is overlap between butches and trans men and femboys and trans women and more"

THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS SAYING THAT YOU, PERSONALLY, INDIVIDUALLY, ARE ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT YOU SAY YOU ARE.

It is acknowledging people who are on the cusp. It's acknowledging the self-identified cis queer men who didn't feel comfortable identifying as men until they started taking estrogen, and the self-identified cis butch women who didn't feel comfortable identifying as women until they started taking testosterone. They exist! It's acknowledging the people who don't know whether they consider themselves trans, gnc cis, or a secret third thing, and people who just don't CARE enough to nail it down any further than "well, I'm not a man/woman the way society wants me to be, at least." It is acknowledging that there is a SPECTRUM, with gnc but distinctly cis people on one end and YOU on the other - but regardless of the existence of the spectrum, cishet society thinks of us pretty much the same.

If you can think of a way to phrase this that may be harder to misinterpret as saying "binary trans people are still intrinsically their AGAB deep down", I'm all ears-

But if your problem is with people acknowledging the spectrum in the first place and realizing that you do share some experiences with some people who identify with your AGAB, that is what we call a You Problem that you need to work out on your own.

Elon Musk: the most dangerous Antisemite

Hey non-Jewish leftists and progressives who consider yourselves allies to Jews or, at a minimum, not antisemitic: now is an exceptionally great time to step up

This is shockingly similar to Henry Ford — i.e. an automotive mogul seen as an innovator in the general public uses his fortune and outsized influence to establish a large media presence and spread antisemitism.

There are some important distinctions, but nothing that makes me feel better about the situation.

1. At its height, Henry Ford’s publication, “The Dearborn Independent,” had a circulation of 900,000. The largest circulation in America at the time was 950,000.

While it was certainly influential, it wasn’t unmatched. In comparison to Musk’s 140 million followers, Ford reached a relatively small number of people.

2. Ford marketed explicit antisemitism, which eventually led to the downfall of his publication — you’ve probably heard of “The international Jew” and “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”

However, as with most antisemites (on both the right and the left), Musk hides behind the thin veil of dog whistles and oversights, leaving a layer of barely-plausible deniability.

3. Ford was eventually forced to publicly apologize after he made the mistake of attacking Jewish attorney Aaron Sapiro for more than a year, until Sapiro eventually sued Ford for libel (i.e. he fucked around and found out lol). Ford eventually lost the case and was forced to publicly apologize (his apology was written by associates and his signature on it was reportedly forged). The magazine was shut down soon afterwards.

While I can’t predict the future, something tells me Musk’s obfuscations and the current political climate will allow him to continue to operate with impunity. Dancing around the issue allows at the very least for greater longevity of your bigotry (say it with your chest you coward).

Despite everything, Ford was able to secure his position in history, albeit with some, um, unfortunate footnotes and the occasional caveat being mentioned.*

All in all, this feels very similar to Trump copying David Duke’s run for the Louisiana legislature, but that’s a story for a different day.

* some additional footnotes and caveats:

- Hitler quoted Ford in his infamous book

- Ford was a notorious union buster

- Ford received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle in 1938, the highest honor a foreigner could receive from Nazi Germany, with personal congratulations from Hitler

- After issuing the aforementioned “public apology” in 1927, Ford said that he would like restart the publication of “The International Jew.” In 1940. 13 years later.

- It’s just my personal opinion, but we probably shouldn’t honor literal nazis, but whatever

- To this day, no one at my synagogue will buy a ford car. I don’t know if this is the norm in other places, but I imagine that it’s not uncommon.

- Yes, I’m aware that nobody explicitly praises Henry Ford anymore, and everybody knows what a shithole he was. While “Henry Ford hated the Jews” is a common refrain, specific knowledge of his hatred is lacking, and I think it’s important to point to explicit hatred in the past, because hatred is normally hidden nowadays and needs to be identified outside of the group receiving the hatred.

This is an incredibly important addition